On a recent morning in March, Tanya Gagne talked about the building where she鈥檚 lived on and off for 20 years.
鈥淚t needs to be condemned,鈥� she said. 鈥淲e get flies that come out of the drain. We get worms that come out of the drain.鈥�
Gagne is currently awaiting trial at Chittenden Regional Correctional Facility in South Burlington, Vermont's only prison for women. It鈥檚 a 50-year-old fortress built on a swamp, and has at least of .
She was talking to state Sen. Wendy Harrison during a tour arranged by the Vermont Department of Corrections.
鈥淲e do not do prison well, and we can do much better.鈥�Sen. Wendy Harrison
Harrison, a Democrat from Windham County, sits on the legislative committee that deals with prisons.
鈥淭here鈥檚 often an assumption that we do prisons well, the way we do other things well, and that is not an accurate assumption,鈥� Harrison said during a phone interview. 鈥淲e do not do prison well, and we can do much better.鈥�
In recent years, the Department of Corrections has adopted an ideology of rehabilitation 鈥� to humanely treat and train people to be successful citizens when they鈥檙e released, according to the agency.
That鈥檚 meant new paint on the walls, murals of the Vermont landscape and inspirational quotes. Services like domestic violence support have moved directly into the prison. There鈥檚 also a new 鈥渉onors unit,鈥� where some low-security prisoners on good behavior can live together unsupervised.
But agency leaders say they can鈥檛 make more substantial changes because they鈥檙e trapped in the 1970s prison.
鈥淚 don't think anybody has any security issue with them having access to their own light, or having access to water that doesn't shut off after 15 seconds,鈥� said Jordan Pasha, the security operations supervisor. 鈥淚t's just because of our infrastructure.鈥�
He and other agency staff say they need an entirely new building.
The Department of Corrections is working with a global prison design firm on a proposal of a . So far, about $15 million .
They鈥檙e drawing inspiration from a new prison not too far away 鈥�
Sen. Harrison has visited the facilities in Maine, and said they were designed with rehabilitation in mind.
鈥淧eople who are incarcerated are encouraged to talk to each other and to settle potential disputes with each other and to do it directly using restorative justice processes,鈥� she said.
In Vermont, the proposed facility would look more like a college dorm. It would have additional honors units, more natural light, and less restrictions on movement and interactions between prisoners.
There is also a proposed reentry unit, where prisoners would move to prepare for outside life.
However, there is still a lot left to figure out, like potential locations for the new facility and a timeline for construction.
鈥淚 don't think anybody has any security issue with them having access to their own light, or having access to water that doesn't shut off after 15 seconds. It's just because of our infrastructure."Jordan Pasha, Vermont Department of Corrections
Those loose plans have advocates like Falko Schilling, with the American Civil Liberties Union of Vermont, wanting concrete details before he can support the proposal 鈥� especially its size. He thinks 158 beds is too large.
鈥淲e need to make sure that we are not overbuilding or expanding the prison footprint in the state,鈥� Schilling said.
The current prison can hold up to 170 people, but the women's prison population has decreased over the past decade and about half of the roughly 100 women held there today are awaiting trial. That has some people questioning whether Vermont needs a new facility at all.
Earlier this spring, around 25 people gathered in front of the women's prison to protest plans for the new facility, organized by the prison abolition group
Jayna Ahsaf, the campaign field organizer, said funding community-level alternatives to prison is a better use of state resources, along with tracking what happens to released prisoners and reasons for recidivism.
鈥淲e could spend that $15 million really investing in those tracking outcomes,鈥� she said. 鈥淪o in a year from now, we can show people we don't need a prison for the 50 or so people who are sentenced 鈥� we can build smaller facilities or even homes across the state that meet needs way better.鈥�
Vermont already has like Dismas House and Pathways Vermont. Part of their funding comes from the state, but they have limited beds.
Sen. Harrison hears these concerns, but she says the state isn鈥檛 ready to not have a prison for women.
鈥淚 think that there are and will be a small number of people who do need to be kept separate for their protection and for the public's protection,鈥� she said. 鈥淚t is a much smaller number than we have incarcerated now.鈥�
Another concern for advocates is staffing the new facility. In Vermont, vacancies at the Department of Corrections are currently around 15%. That鈥檚 down from 30% a few years ago, when Vermont implemented a temporary 60-hour work week for correctional officers.
But staff shortages are still impacting services in the prison 鈥� like the availability of library books. They鈥檙e supposed to be switched from unit to unit, Tanya Gagne explained on the tour in March.
鈥淲e got two bookcases over here but they're all the same books 鈥� we never get them exchanged,鈥� she said. 鈥淪o yeah, it's bad.鈥�
This story was produced in collaboration between 开云体育 and the Community News Service. The is a student-powered partnership between the University of Vermont鈥檚 Reporting & Documentary Storytelling program and community newspapers across Vermont.
